Bitcoin investors will crawl back to gold when crypto.

100 Reasons to Buy Bitcoin

  1. Bitcoin is the most censorship resistant money in the world.
  2. You don't have to buy a “whole” bitcoin so don't freak out if you look at the price. You can buy a piece of one no problem.
  3. The Dallas Mavericks accept Bitcoin on their website. You don't trust Mark Cuban. He's the best shark.
  4. Bitcoin is the best performing asset of the last decade (better than S&P500).
  5. Diversify your current portfolio.
  6. It's not illegal in the USA.
  7. You holding just one satoshi slightly limits the supply and can rise the price for everyone else.
  8. [In late 2019] hash rate is the highest it has ever been
  9. Suicide insurance; if Bitcoin rises in price there is no worse feeling than regret.
  10. Some of the smartest people in computer science and cryptography are working on it. Trust nerds.
  11. Look at the all time historical chart. No technical analysis just tell me what you think when you look at it.
  12. Money is a belief system... and I want to believe.
  13. Transparent ledger, no funny business going on it's easy to audit.
  14. Elon Musk appears to be a fan. How's that for an appeal to authority
  15. There is a fixed limit in the number of bitcoins that will exist. 21 million bitcoin, 7 billion people on earth. Do the math.
  16. There are so many examples of governments inflating their currency to the point where it becomes unusable. Read the wikipedia page for Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
  17. Altcoins make sacrifices in either security or centralization. There are altcoins out there that claim to be innovating but just check the scoreboard nothing has flipped Bitcoin in market value or even gotten close.
  18. With technology developing at a rate faster than law, governments and for-profit businesses have the ability to monitor our purchases, location, our habits, and all of this has happened without consent. People made jokes and conspiracy theory, but sometimes conspiracy is real. Most people are good, but there is absolutely evil out there. There are absolutely evil people in positions of power. There are absolutely evil people that work together in positions of power. Does anyone actually believe that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. Go read about Leslie Wexner. Go read the cypherpunk manifesto.
  19. The upcoming halvening in 2020 will reduce the number of Bitcoin created in each block, making them more scarce, and if history repeats more valuable.
  20. Bitcoin has lower fees than traditional banking.
  21. Gold has the advantage of being a physical thing. But unlike gold you know Bitcoin is not forged, or mixed with another metal, and you can easily break it into tiny pieces and send it over the internet to someone.
  22. Bitcoin could spark new interests maybe you start to read more into economics, computer science, or Brock Pierce.
  23. Bitcoin has survived with no leader, marketing team, public relations, or legal team.
  24. Because Wired magazine said Bitcoin was dead at $2, Forbes said it was dead at $15, NY Times at $208, and CNN at $333.
  25. Just do a cost benefit analysis. What happens if Bitcoin fails and it goes to zero vs. what happens if it succeeds, and becomes world money.
  26. Bitcoin encourages long term thinking, planning, saving. Due to inflation we are punished by holding on to cash. Look up the statistics on the average savings account while we are bombarded with consumerist bullshit like Funko pop heads, Loot crate subscription services, and new syrup flavors for coffee. Currently we are encouraged to spend now, seek immediate gratification, and ignore what we are becoming as Amazon picks out our clothes and toothpaste ships it to the house and we sit and watch streaming services where content is pushed to us and I'm supposed to buy that this garbage is actually “trending”. Our lives have become so comfortable that idiots spend $60 to escape a room and have someone take your picture when you get out. What would our ancestors think.
  27. Maybe you're a day trader looking to use a trading bot in an unregulated market.
  28. Bitcoin has 7 letters in it. Lucky number 7.....
  29. Bitcoin promises to bank the unbanked, and provide services to those not otherwise “qualified” to open a bank account.
  30. It's just cool, don't you want to seem smart to all your friends.
  31. The origin story is so nuts there's going to be a movie or several movies about the early days of Bitcoin. Satoshi Nakamoto remains anonymous to this day. Imagine if the inventor of the cell phone was anonymous.
  32. If you have money to burn, don't buy soda, weed, or some girls private snapchat it's a dead end put it towards Bitcoin and give it to your child in the future.
  33. To avoid getting ripped off by foreign exchange fees just because you were born one place and your friends were born in another place.
  34. Can't live off the grid in your log cabin and still use Mastercard. Bitcoin is one piece of opting out.
  35. If one country adopts BTC as the national currency, it doesn't take much thought to realise that others will follow.
  36. Join a welcoming and unique community. Everyone is super nice because they want your money.
  37. You can stick it to the baby boomers.
  38. You can stick it to the vegans.
  39. You can stick it Roger Ver.
  40. Maybe your IQ is 70 and you'll do whatever CNBC Fast Money recommends.
  41. Maybe a hacker infects your computer, records you doing that thing, and threatens to release the tape if you do not pay them 1.5 Bitcoin.
  42. You're a risk taker looking for some risky investment.
  43. Aliens attack like Independence Day, blow up major cities in major countries, your money is still safe with Bitcoin. As long as there is a some guy, some person, living on an island with a copy of the ledger out there on your'e good. We're all good.
  44. Many proposals to scale the number of transactions, may the best plan win.
  45. One day you might have to use BTC to pay taxes, buy food, and charge your Tesla.
  46. You want to support a political group and remain private.
  47. You can trust math more than you can trust people to set an emission rate.
  48. Government don't know how much you have.
  49. The first response to Bitcoin being published by Hal Finney stated that Bitcoin was positioned to reach million dollar valuation. Hal was the first bull and passed away in 2014, missing a lot #doitforHal.
  50. Baddies can't freeze your money if they mad at you.
  51. The Big Bang Theory mentioned it, maybe you want to be like Sheldon the bazinga guy.
  52. Mid-life crisis.
  53. Be contrarian. In a world where everyone zigs it's sometimes good to zag.
  54. Don't have any hobbies, and you just need a reason to get up in the morning.
  55. Enjoy learning? Bitcoin is a topic where there is so much to learn, and so much development, that it really becomes a never ending journey. For someone who likes learning, it's more productive than speedrunning a video game.
  56. Yolo. You only live once. This isn't a dress rehearsal, if there's something your kind of interested in pursue it. That's true for anything not just Bitcoin. But if you're reading this I'm assuming you're interested.
  57. Bitcoin is not a ponzi scheme. The difference is Bitcoin does not need new people buying in to work, blocks being added will continue even if the community stopped growing.
  58. With religion on the decline maybe you want to join a cult. Crypto twitter is a great echo chamber to meet like minded people.
  59. Satoshi Nakamoto found a way to distribute a global currency in a fair way with the ability to adjust the mining difficulty as we go, it's really incredible. You still need computers and electricity to mine new bitcoin today but it's an extremely fair way for people to earn. There was no premine of Bitcoin. Everyone who has Bitcoin either bought it at what the market said, or they earned it.
  60. No CEO in charge of Bitcoin to make bad decisions or a board of directors that can make changes. The users, an ever growing number, are in charge.
  61. Bitcoin has no days off, it has no workers in charge who can get sick or take a holiday.
  62. Bitcoin has survived 10 years (and more). While there will always be dangers, I'd argue that those first few years it was most vulnerable to fail.
  63. Have some trust in the cypherpunks. Anyone who held and didn't sell bitcoin as it went from pennies to five figures is not looking to get rich. They want to change the world.
  64. Potential president Tulsi Gabbard disclosed owning some.
  65. Digital money is the future, anyone who has tried Venmo can see that. Well Bitcoin is a digitally native asset.
  66. Refugees can use Bitcoin to store their wealth as they flee a failing country.
  67. Bitcoin is an open source project. Anthony Pompliano likes to call it a virus but I like how the author of the Bitcoin Standard describes it. Bitcoin is like a song. As long as one person remembers it you can't destroy a song.
  68. Triple entry accounting. When humans first started recording who owes who what we had single-entry accounting. The king's little brother would keep everything written down, but we had to really trust this guy because he could simply erase a line and that money would be gone. When double-entry accounting started to spread 500 years ago it brought with it massive innovation. Businesses could now form relationships across the ocean as they each kept a record. We did not have innovation again until Satoshi's Bitcoin, where blockchain can be used as the neutral third party to keep record. It might not sound important but blockchain allows us to agree upon an objective reality.
  69. Bitcoin is non-political.
  70. Bitcoin is easy to accept. I mean kind of. It's certainly easier than setting up a bank account.
  71. A sandwich used to cost 10 cents in America, I walk into Subway and they don't even have $5 foot longs anymore. Inflation man..
  72. It's a peaceful protest.
  73. Critics say that mining wastes electricity, but if Bitcoin adoption continues the world will actually be incentivized to produce more renewable energy. There are so many waterfalls and sources of energy in the middle of nowhere right now. People might not see a reason to build a power plant over there now, but in the future it can make business sense. Take that waterfall mine bitcoin, and sell them to the people who can't mine. It allows for a business to sell their energy anywhere.
  74. Get into debates around Bitcoin, build those critical thinking skills.
  75. “Predicting rain doesn't count, building arks does”
  76. “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now.”
  77. "I never considered for one second having anything to do with it. I detested it the moment it was raised. It’s just disgusting. Bitcoin is noxious poison.”
  78. The immaculate conception. No cryptocurrency can have a start the grassroots way Bitcoin did, it's just impossible given how the space has changed.
  79. There are more than 1000x more U.S. dollars today than there were a hundred years ago.
  80. Bitcoin is the largest transfer of wealth this decade from the least curious to the curious.
  81. The concept of the Star Wars Cantina, Galt's Gulch, or young Beat Generation kids sitting in a basement smoking cigarettes and questioning the world can only exist if money remains fungible.
  82. You can send money to your Dad even if he lives in a country run by bad boys.
  83. Memorize your key, and walk around the world carrying your money in your head.
  84. Free speech.
  85. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JGmA5_unYGmA5_unY
  86. The Federal Reserve is objectively way too powerful.
  87. John Mcafe promised that if bitcoins were not valued at 1 million dollars by the end of 2020 he would eat his own penis on national television. It will be a sad day if we don't hit that 1 million.
  88. The Apple credit card.
  89. If we ever get artificial intelligence it'll be able to interact with Bitcoin.
  90. Katy Perry is aware of crypto so if by some chance you run into her, you get one chance to strike up conversation, so here's your chance to shine. You don't ask for a picture, you don't say she's pretty, or name your favorite song. Take your shot and ask about what type of cold storage she uses for her bitcoin.
  91. Many people are afraid of a world currency because it's associated with a centralized world power taking control. Bitcoin allows for neutral world money.
  92. Stick it to Mark Zuckerberg.
  93. Developers developers developers developers developer developers.
  94. About 85% of the supply has already been mined.
  95. Bitcoin can always improve. As long as the proposal is really good the code can be upgraded, and if the baddies invent ways to hurt the chain we can just fork off it's just code.
  96. Memes
  97. Name recognition and momentum above all other cryptocurrencies.
  98. 3% discount with Bitcoin at Crescent Tide Cremation Services. Nice cant wait to die.
  99. Like having a swiss bank account in your pocket.
  100. Blow up the banks (in minecraft).
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MeWe: A trip report

Among the more frequently mentioned G+ alternatives at the Google+ Mass Migration community, and others, is MeWe with over 250 mentions. The site bills itself as "The Next-Gen Social Network" and the "anti-Facebook": "No Ads, No Political Bias, No Spyware. NO BS. It is headed by professed Libertarian CEO Mark Weinstein.
As the site reveals no public user-generated content to non-members, it's necessary to create an account in order to get a full impression. I thought I'd provide an overview based on recent explorations.
This report leads of with background on the company, though readers may find the report and analysis of specific groups on the site of interest.

Leadership

Founder & CEO Mark Weinstein.
Co-Founder & Chief Scientist, Jonathan Wolfe (no longer with company).
Weinstein previously founded SuperFamily and SuperFriends, "at the turn of the millennium". Weinstein's MeWe biography lists articles published by The Mirror (UK), Huffington Post, USA Today, InfoSecurity Magazine, Dark Reading, and the Nation. His media appearances include MarketWatch, PBS, Fox News, and CNN. He's also the author of several personal-success books.
His Crunchbase bio is a repeat of the MeWe content.

Advisory Board

Ownership & Investment

MeWe is the dba of Sgrouples, a private for-profit early-stage venture company based in Los Angeles, though with a Mountain View HQ and mailing address, 11-50 employees, with $10m in funding over five rounds, and a $20m valuation as of 2016.
Sgrouples, Inc., dba MeWe Trust & Safety - Legal Policy c/o Fenwick West 801 California Street Mountain View, CA 94041
Crunchbase Profile.
Founded: 2012 (source)
Secured $1.2M in seed funding in 2014.
2016 valuation: $20m (source]
Backers:
Despite the business address, the company claims to be based in Los Angeles County, California and is described by the Los Angeles Business Journal as a Culver City, CA, company.

Business

Policy

In an August 6, 2018 Twitter post, Weinstein promotes MeWe writing:
Do you have friends still on Facebook? Share this link with them about Facebook wanting their banking information - tell them to move to MeWe now! No Ads. No Spyware. No Political Agenda. No Bias Algorithms. No Shadow Banning. No Facial Recognition.
MeWe provide several policy-related links on the site:
Highlights of these follow.

Privacy

The privacy policy addresses:

Terms of Service

The ToS addresses:
Effective: November 6, 2018.

FAQ

The FAQ addresses:

Values

This emphasises that people are social cratures and private people by right. The service offers the power of self expression under an umbrella of safety. It notes that our innermost thoughts require privacy.
Under "We aspire...":
MeWe is here to empower and enrich your world. We challenge the status quo by making privacy, respect, and safety the foundations of an innovatively designed, easy-to-use social experience.
Totalling 182 words.

Privacy Bill of Rights

A ten-item statement of principles (possibly inspired by another document, it might appear):
  1. You own your personal information & content. It is explicitly not ours.
  2. You will never receive a targeted advertisement or 3rd party content based on what you do or say online. We think that's creepy.
  3. You see every post in timeline order from your friends, family & groups. We do not manipulate, filter, or change the order of your content or what you see.
  4. Permissions & privacy are your rights. You control them.
  5. You control who can access your content.
  6. You control what, if anything, others can see in member searches.
  7. Your privacy means we do not share your personal information with anyone.
  8. Your emojis are for you and your friends. We do not monitor or mine your data.
  9. Your face is your business. We do not use facial recognition technology.
  10. You have the right to delete your account and take your content with you at any time.

Press

There are a few mentions of MeWe in the press, some listed on the company's website, others via web search.

Self-reported articles

The following articles are linked directly from MeWe's Press page:
The page also lists a "Privacy Revolution Required Reading" list of 20 articles all addressing Facebook privacy gaffes in the mainstream press (Wired, TechCrunch, Fortune, Gizmodo, The Guardian, etc.).
There are further self-reported mentions in several of the company's PR releases over the years.

Other mentions

A DuckDuckGo search produces several other press mentions, including:

Technology

This section is a basic rundown of the user-visible site technology.

Mobile Web

The site is not natively accessible from a mobile Web browser as it is overlayed with a promotion for the mobile application instead. Selecting "Desktop View" in most mobile browsers should allow browser-based access.

Mobile App

There are both Android and iOS apps for MeWe. I've used neither of these, though the App store entries note:
Crunchbase cites 209,220 mobile downloads over the past 30 days (via Apptopia), an 80.78% monthly growth rate, from Google Play.

Desktop Web

Either selecting "View Desktop" or navigating with a Desktop browser to https://www.mewe.com your are presented with a registration screen, with the "About", "Privacy Bill of Rights", "MeWe Challenge", and a language selector across the top of the page. Information requested are first and last name, phone or email, and a password. Pseudonymous identities are permitted, though this isn't noted on the login screen. Returning members can use the "Member Log In" button.
The uMatrix Firefox extension reveals no third-party content: all page elements are served from mewe.com, img.mewe.com, cdn.mewe.com, or ws.mewe.com. (In subsequent browsing, you may find third-party plugins from, for example, YouTube, for videos, or Giphy, for animated GIFs.)
The web front-end is nginx. The site uses SSL v3, issued by DigiCert Inc. to Sgrouples, Inc.

Onboarding

The onboarding experience is stark. There is no default content presented. A set of unidentified icons spans the top of the screen, these turn out to be Home, Chats, Groups, Pages, and Events. New users have to, somehow, find groups or people to connect with, and there's little guidance as to how to do this.

Interface

Generally there is a three panel view, with left- and right-hand sidebars of largely navigational or status information, and a central panel with main content. There are also pop-up elements for chats, an omnipresent feature of the site.
Controls display labels on some devices and/or resolutions. Controls do not provide tooltips for navigational aid.

Features

Among the touted features of MeWe are:

Community

A key aspect of any social network is its community. Some of the available or ascertained information on this follows.

Size

Weinstein claims a "million+ following inside MeWe.com" on Twitter.
The largest visible groups appear to have a maximum of around 15,000 members , for "Awesome gifs". "Clean Comedy" rates 13,350, and the largest open political groups, 11,000+ members.
This compares to Google+ which has a staggering, though Android-registrations-inflated 3.3 billion profiles, and 7.9 million communities, though the largest of these come in at under 10 million members. It's likely that MeWe's membership is on the whole more more active than Google+'s, where generally-visible posting activity was limited to just over 9% of all profiles, and the active user base was well under 1% of the total nominal population.

Active Users

MeWe do not publish active users (e.g., MUA / monthly active users) statistics.

Groups

MeWe is principally a group-oriented discussion site -- interactions take place either between individuals or within group contexts. Virtually all discovery is group-oriented. The selection and dynamics of groups on the site will likely strongly affect user experience, so exploring the available groups and their characteristics is of interest.
"MeWe has over 60,000 open groups" according to its FAQ.
The Open groups -- visible to any registered MeWe user, though not to the general public Web -- are browsable, though sections and topics must be expanded to view the contents: an overview isn't immediately accessible. We provide a taste here.
A selection of ten featured topics spans the top of the browser. As I view these, they are:
Specific groups may appear in multiple categories.
The top Groups within these topics have, variously, 15,482, 7,738, 15,482 (dupe), 7,745, 8,223, 8,220, 1,713, 9,527, 2,716, and 1,516 members. Listings scroll at length -- the Music topic has 234 Groups, ranging in size from 5 to 5,738 members, with a median of 59, mean of 311.4, and a 90%ile of 743.5.
Below this is a grid of topics, 122 in all, ranging from Activism to Wellness, and including among them. A selected sample of these topics, with top groups listed members in (parens), follows:
To be clear: whilst I've not included every topic, I've sampled a majority of them above, and listed not an arbitrary selection, but the top few Groups under each topic.

Google+ Groups

The Google Plus expats group seems the most active of these by far.

Political Groups

It's curious that MeWe make a specific point in their FAQ that:
At MeWe we have absolutely no political agenda and we have a very straightforward Terms of Service. MeWe is for all law-abiding people everywhere in the world, regardless of political, ethnic, religious, sexual, and other preferences.
There are 403 political groups on MeWe. I won't list them all here, but the first 100 or so give a pretty clear idea of flavour. Again, membership is in (parentheses). Note that half the total political Groups memberships are in the first 21 groups listed here, the first 6 are 25% of the total.
  1. Donald J. Trump 2016 - Present (11486)
  2. The Conservative's Hangout (8345)
  3. Qanon Follow The White Rabbit (5600)
  4. Drain The Swamp (4978)
  5. Libertarians (4528)
  6. United We Stand Trump2020 (4216)
  7. The Right To Self Defense (3757)
  8. Alternative Media (3711)
  9. Hardcore Conservative Patriots for Trump (3192)
  10. Bastket Of Deplorables4Trump! (3032)
  11. Return of the Republic (2509)
  12. Infowars Chat Room Unofficial (2159)
  13. Donald Trump Our President 2017-2025 (2033)
  14. Berners for Progress (1963)
  15. Sean Hannity Fans (1901)
  16. The American Conservative (1839)
  17. I Am The NRA (1704)
  18. Tucker Carlson Fox News (1645)
  19. We Love Donald Trump (1611)
  20. MAGA - Make America Great Again (1512)
  21. Q (1396)
  22. ClashDaily.com (1384)
  23. news from the front (1337)
  24. Basket of Deplorables (1317)
  25. Payton's Park Bench (1283)
  26. Convention of States (1282)
  27. Britons For Brexit (1186)
  28. MoJo 5.0 Radio (1180)
  29. MeWe Free Press (1119)
  30. The Constitutionally Elite (1110)
  31. Libertarian (1097)
  32. WOMEN FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP (1032)
  33. AMERICANS AGAINST ISIS and OTHER ENEMIES (943)
  34. #WalkAway Campaign (894)
  35. ALEX JONES (877)
  36. The Lion Is Awake ! (854)
  37. We Support Donald Trump! (810)
  38. The Stratosphere Lounge (789)
  39. TRUMP-USA-HANDS OFF OUR PRESIDENT (767)
  40. Official Tea Party USA (749)
  41. Mojo50 Jackholes (739)
  42. Yes Scotland (697)
  43. "WE THE DEPLORABLE" - MOVE ON SNOWFLAKE! (688)
  44. Judge Jeanine Pirro Fans (671)
  45. Anarcho-Capitalism (658)
  46. Ted Cruz for President (650)
  47. No Lapdog Media (647)
  48. Q Chatter (647)
  49. Daily Brexit (636)
  50. Tucker Carlson Fox News (601)
  51. The Trumps Storm Group (600)
  52. QAnon-Patriots WWG1WGA (598)
  53. 100% American (569)
  54. Ladies For Donald Trump (566)
  55. Deep State (560)
  56. In the Name of Liberty (557)
  57. Material Planet (555)
  58. WikiUnderground (555)
  59. Trump NRA Free Speech Patriots on MeWe Gab.ai etc (546)
  60. Magna Carta Group (520)
  61. Constitutional Conservatives (506)
  62. Question Everything (503)
  63. Conspiracy Research (500)
  64. Bill O'Reilly Fans (481)
  65. Conservative Misfit's (479)
  66. Canadian politics (478)
  67. Anarchism (464)
  68. HARDCORE DEPLORABLES (454)
  69. Deplorable (450)
  70. Tampa Bay Trump Club (445)
  71. UK Politics (430)
  72. Bongino Fan Page (429)
  73. Radical Conservatives (429)
  74. RESIST THE RESISTANCE (419)
  75. The Deplorables (409)
  76. America's Freedom Fighters (401)
  77. Politically Incorrect & Proud (399)
  78. CONSERVATIVES FOR AMERICA ! (385)
  79. Political satire (383)
  80. RISE OF THE RIGHT (371)
  81. UK Sovereignty,Independence,Democracy -Everlasting (366)
  82. The Patriots Voting Coalition (359)
  83. End The Insanity (349)
  84. Coming American Civil War! (345)
  85. Constitutional Conservatives (343)
  86. United Nations Watch (342)
  87. A Revival Of The Critical Thinking Union (337)
  88. The New Libertarian (335)
  89. Libertarian Party (official ) (333)
  90. DDS United (Duterte Die-hard Supporters) (332)
  91. American Conservative Veterans (331)
  92. Anarchism/Agorism/Voluntaryism (328)
  93. America Needs Donald Trump (326)
  94. The UKIP Debating Society (321)
  95. Coalition For Trump (310)
  96. Egalitarianism (306)
  97. FRIENDS THAT LIKE JILL STEIN AND THE GREEN PARTY (292)
  98. 2nd Amendment (287)
  99. Never Forget #SethRich (286)
  100. Green Party Supporters 2020 (283)
It seems there is relatively little representation from the left wing, or even the centre, of the political spectrum. A case-insensitive match for "liberal" turns up:
Mainstream political parties are little represented, though again, the balance seems skewed searching on "(democrat|republic|gop)":
The terms "left" and "right" provide a few matches, not all strictly political-axis aligned:
Socialism and Communism also warrant a few mentions:
And there are some references to green, laboulabor parties:

Conclusion

Whilst there may not be a political agenda, there does appear to be at least a slight political bias to the site. And a distinctive skew on many other topical subjects.
Those seeking new homes online may wish to take this into account.

Updates

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The Green Glass

There are two pertinent things about me which you must understand: I have a photographic memory, and I am a criminal. My memory means you can trust that my tale is accurate; my criminality does not indicate any deception or fabrication – it is much easier to omit rather than to lie. It is your prerogative to doubt me, for in the interest of my own anonymity I cannot provide any tangible proof of my encounter with the malevolent object (or whatever compels or creates this object) which I have named, for the sake of convenience, the Green Glass.
A photographic memory is certainly an interesting trait, but wasn’t for me a particularly useful one. This trait never got me a high-paying job, hell, it never even helped in getting me laid. I worked at a call center for a major department store taking inbound calls and processing orders for merchandise. As you could guess, I see hundreds of credit card numbers every week, complete with the expiration date, security code, and the full name of the cardholder. Sometimes I even came across social security numbers. If one were to engage in an unsavory crime involving customers’ credit card numbers, there are two ways that person would be caught. The first would be if they were spotted taking a photograph or writing down the number, and the second would be if they were stupid enough to use that number to buy something for themselves. I was more clever than that. I stored that information inside my memory and wrote it down later in the safety of my own home – even my memory has limits. Then I would wait a full year, letting the cardholder make purchases in all sorts of places so that when I sold the numbers on the dark web, there would be hundreds of suspects other than myself that investigators would look for when the cardholder reported fraudulent purchases.
It was a regular work day, and another act of future identity theft I was committing, when I first saw the Green Glass. Then, it had no such name; it was merely a centerpiece for a dining room table being sold on my company’s website. A very expensive, finely crafted centerpiece going for $3,099.99. Who spends that much money on a thing that has no other purpose but to sit on a table and impress dinner guests? This lady whom I was talking to who wanted to order it, who we’ll call “Kristin.” I’ve changed all the names here, of course, so as to not implicate myself in whatever began that day.
“Sixteen” said Kristin, “that’s the item number.” The item numbers on the company’s website are always 7 digits. I seriously doubted my customer knew what the hell she was talking about, but that’s nothing new. The site was never very user friendly, customers tended to mistake all kinds of things for the item number and then I had to find it for them. I was going to politely correct her, but by muscle memory I typed “16” into the search bar and pressed enter. And to my mild surprise, an item actually appeared. It was this centerpiece, which the site’s description told me was “crafted by the most highly skilled glass artisans in North America.” A ridiculously overpriced centerpiece. The only other thing worth noting, apart from the price, is that I saw in the image that the centerpiece had a very faint, very subtle shade of green despite the object also being described as “flawlessly clear.” But that was probably nothing more than bad lighting when the photograph was taken, and if Kristin didn’t mention it, there was no way I would and risk losing the sale.
My employer sold a few luxury items but for the most part, the department store chain catered to middle-class people, and the vast majority of callers were not the wealthy, but instead those looking for $50 items marked down to $10 on a fire sale. Still, I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary at the time, and I was honestly excited – exceed a sales quota and I would earn some bonus cash. This would bring me right over the benchmark. As I half-listened to Kristin’s boring blabbering about her dinner plans and gave her intermittent acknowledgment, I thought of what I might treat myself to with my extra earnings. I explained to her that the one-day shipping she chose actually meant two days but that she would undoubtedly receive it time, and then the call was finished.
Later that night, I was at a friend’s apartment drinking beer, smoking weed, and playing Rocket League. Many of my weeknights went this way. I could stay up until dawn killing time like this because I worked afternoons and evenings. When we took a break from the PS4, I felt inclined to whine to my buddy Eric about the shallowness of my customers. He bitched about his shitty job all the time, so naturally I returned the favor. “This woman bought like, a fucking piece of glass, like a fancy fucking piece of glass, for $3100. Just to sit on a table. For one night. I wanted to tell her she wouldn’t be able to return it so I wouldn’t have to deal with that, but I mean I didn’t want her to get insulted, obviously. I earn that much in 4 months. If I had that much money, I’d buy...” but the weed was kicking in and I forgot what I would have bought. “I wanna see it” Eric said. My other friend, Jason, nodded in agreement. I pulled up the company’s website on my phone and entered 16 into the search bar. But no results came up. I don’t remember anything incorrectly, but anyone can remember 16 regardless. I tried the name of it instead. Nothing. I stubbornly went to the fine china tab and chose the price range, and still I couldn’t bring up the damn thing. “The site is being shitty, never mind” I said. For all I knew, it was just that the site was being shitty. It didn’t matter then.
Kristin called back two weeks later, and that is when things started to get strange. “Hey, I remember you!” she said in a chipper voice. “Do you remember me?” “Yes ma’am, of course” I said. “Did your dinner party go well? Did you get compliments on the centerpiece?” Kristin spared no detail in answering me.
“Oh, everything was perfect. All my colleagues were envious! The reason I’m calling though… last week I was the victim of a home invasion.” I was going to give a courteous “Oh, I’m so sorry to hear that” sort of interjection. But Kristin kept talking. “I wasn’t home at the time. But my husband and Elizabeth, my 6 year old, they were both there. These thugs broke my husband’s jaw, he’s still in the hospital, Elizabeth is sleeping with the lights on. They took most of my jewelry, the cash. But that’s not what’s important.”
“Of course” I thought, but didn’t say. I kept listening. Kristin continued. “You think they stole the centerpiece, right? No, they just broke it. My wonderful centerpiece was in a million pieces on the floor. So heartbreaking. Obviously, I want another. I know you can’t do anything on your end and that’s fine, maybe my homeowners’ insurance will reimburse me, but I want to buy another today. The house looks so empty without it! Can you help me?”
Husband in the hospital, traumatized daughter, and she wants another one. I hated her in that moment. Even more shallow than I thought possible! I hesitated for a moment, but not long. I do my job, and I don’t lecture customers. Normally, I would express sympathy for her family. But she didn’t seem like she would care.
“Are you still there?” Kristin asked. “Yes ma’am. I just need a moment to pull it up.” 16. But the centerpiece still was missing. I searched in every possible way, distracted as Kristin continued to impatiently ask if I had located the item yet. I put her on hold and called my supervisor over. Since it was a valuable sale and she was a high roller as far as customers go, the matter warranted some extra effort. But 10 minutes later, we were at a dead end. My supervisor suggested that I put her on a waiting list so the first centerpiece back in stock is held for her. That usually placated the more persistent customers. Not this time. “Ma’am” I said “I am sorry to inform you that we are out of stock on this item nationwide, but I have added your name to our waiting list and you will receive a call immediately from myself or another associate as soon as we can ship this centerpiece to you again.”
“No!” Kristin protested. “I need it NOW! NOW! Don’t you get it? The house is worthless without it, I can’t stand to be in my own dining room knowing it’s gone! They broke it and I need another one! PLEASE.” I could hear her sob. This was unbelievable. “I’m so sorry” I apologized again, not sorry in the least for this woman. “I’d be happy to offer you a special discount coupon that would be valid for any other item in our fine china selection.” She screamed. Shrieked. Directly into my headset. I tore it off my head and slammed it down on the desk, and I could still hear her frantic pleas. “I WANT IT BACK!! I WANT IT BACK!! HELP ME!! WHAT WILL PEOPLE SAY?!” After that, I couldn’t take it anymore. I hung up. That wasn’t allowed at my workplace, but I didn’t care.
After my shift came another night drinking and smoking with Eric and Jason, who laughed as I told them about this, as they weren’t the ones who had the weaponized sound of this awful woman’s voice assaulting their ears. Both of them speculated on what could have been going on. Eric offered that it was “probably PMS” while Jason mused on his ex-girlfriend with borderline personality disorder. No theories on Kristin’s mental state satisfied me, this was just too much. But with no other choice, I stored this incident in the back of my mind and moved on with my life. Up to this point, I was sure there was a rational, albeit terrible explanation for all this, and I didn’t think the centerpiece itself had anything to do with it. Three weeks later, this belief of mine was challenged.
Back at work, I received a transfer call from an employee in another state who sold furniture. “We’re having some sort of problem with our computers. I have a customer looking to buy a mirror, could you take this, please?” she asked. I accepted the transfer and introduced myself to the customer. “Well howdy” a man with a Texas accent greeted me. “I found a great bargain on a mirror. My family and I just moved into a new house, it’s still pretty bare bones, but I think this mirror would really add some character.” I was too exasperated with work to extol the quality of my company’s items. I apathetically asked for the item number. “That would be 19, my friend” the man answered. In that moment, I did feel uneasy. This was the second time I was given a number that shouldn’t correspond to anything on the website, and the second time it yielded a result nevertheless. It was a mirror, nothing special by my reckoning. When I examined it more closely, I felt a bit more worried. I could see the faint, green hue again on glass that shouldn’t be green.
Like most customers, this man – Greg, talked on while I filled out his order and took a mental snapshot of his credit card information. “It’s kind of new age, or modern, or whatever they call it – I’m a man, I don’t know the terminology” Greg said, laughing to himself. I wasn’t sure what he meant. Then Greg said “I mean, it’s so green, I’ve never seen a green mirror before. But my wife is into that kind of stuff. It’s a birthday present for her, a way of giving her something nice and showing her that I have good taste, you hear?” “It’s a very good choice” I said, not wanting to say anything more.
Some time passed, and one night off from work with not much interesting to do, I felt compelled to pull up the mirror on the company website and take another look. Like before, the merchandise was missing. Then I googled Kristin’s full name, and found her on a local news site for Sacremento. I read the article, and what I read made me seriously consider quitting my job for the first time. “Authorities have ruled that the death of a local business owner and her six-year-old daughter was the result of a murder-suicide.” I read on. “Last July, the Sacremento Police Department were on the scene in response to a strong-arm home invasion. One of the deputies there told reporters that Kristin Ross exhibited strange behavior at the time, apparently ignoring her injured husband and daughter while complaining about some of her valuables being destroyed by the home invaders. ‘She said “They ruined it, they ruined it and I don’t know what to do”, and she refused to answer my questions because she was gathering these pieces of broken glass. She asked me if I had superglue. I thought she was just a bit shaken by what happened, and now I’m very upset to think I might have missed some warning signs of paranoid schizophrenia, or some other condition.’ Matthew Ross, Kristin’s husband, passed away in August from a hospital-acquired infection while undergoing treatment for his injuries. Investigators have speculated that this loss may have caused Kristin’s mental state to deteriorate. Elizabeth Ross’ death was ruled the result of drowning by the county coroner. Kristin allegedly took her own life after drowning her daughter in the bathtub.”
The thought crossed my mind to call Greg. The 10 digits of his phone number were not something I had forgotten. But I didn’t call him. What would I even say? I didn’t even have any idea what was going on. But as it turned out, Greg found me a week later, on national news. An anchorman read from his teleprompter as images of a scorched house and a picture of a middle-aged man were displayed on screen. “Law enforcement officials and first responders in Dallas arrived at a house ablaze after receiving a chilling 911 call. Gregory Farnsworth called 911 on Thursday, stating his intention to commit suicide. We now know that Mr. Farnsworth was under investigation for insider trading, a factor which may have contributed to his tragic decision to end the life of himself and another person. Although police were immediately dispatched to the address the call was placed from, they found the home of Mr. Farnsworth on fire, apparently set deliberately. The bodies of Mr. Farnsworth and a currently unidentified woman were recovered from the scene. The audio and transcript of the 911 call has been withheld.”
I burned my credit card numbers in the sink that night, every last one. As far as I could tell, this thing, this Green Glass, might be something that punishes greed. Although there were many numbers I couldn’t forget, I swore to myself that I would never sell another one again. I locked myself out of my Bitcoin account by randomly generating a new password and copypasting it in to change it. Then I put in my two weeks notice at my call center job. Every day until my last day there, I dreaded every incoming call, expecting a customer to order another glass object that would now be listed under the number “21” - probably the number of victims claimed so far. That didn’t happen. I gratefully took a new job as a pizza delivery driver soon after, and I tried to forget about the Green Glass despite all of my unanswered questions. Why did Kristin kill her daughter? Why did Greg apparently see the glass as a vibrant green when I only saw a pale, barely discernible hue? Does it punish greed, or does it just want to kill as many as it can? I was most haunted by the most obvious question: Why me? Why did it appear for me to sell both times? I regret to inform you I have no answers to this day, and all I can give you now is the story of my last – hopefully, please God last encounter with this fucking thing.
It was a year and change after I found out what happened to Kristin and Greg. I had gotten in Eric’s car on a Saturday night, with Jason there too. Our group, still getting drunk, still getting high, just trying to find some joy in our disappointing lives. We planned to blaze up in a nearby park and then hit a bar or two. We stopped first at a headshop so Jason could buy a new pipe. So we perused the display case, and one pipe caught Jason’s eye. “Check it, guys. That looks gangsta as fuck, look at how bright that green is!” My chest tightened and my heart raced, but I was in for one more surprise: It didn’t look green at all to me; it didn’t even have the slightest hint of green. It was nothing more than transparent glass. “I’ll take it!” Jason declared. The guy behind the desk said “Fifteen dollars.” Maybe I was wrong. Before, I saw the green, and the item was always expensive. But then Jason paid and had it in his hands, and as he showed it to Eric and I, I saw the number 44 on the side of the bowl. I was done.
“I feel sick” I lied. “We’re still close to my place, so I’m just going to walk back. You guys have fun.” Neither of them seemed to believe me. I never told them. I still couldn’t bring myself to warn them. It’s not that I didn’t care, it’s just that I didn’t want to be a part of this. “We’ll drive you back” Eric offered, but I declined. Jason looked me over skeptically and asked “What’s your deal, man? You’re not sick. Come on, don’t be a pussy.” All I said back to him was “I don’t really give a fuck what you think” and I stormed out the door.
Eric called me later that night. Jason was dead. He got into a bar fight. According to Eric, Jason was very high and very drunk, and ended up starting a fight with a stranger over some petty insult. A fistfight broke out, and the man pulled a gun and shot Jason point blank in the chest. I didn’t talk to Eric after that night, I didn’t go to Jason’s funeral. I packed my shit and took a Greyhound to the other side of the country. Again, in vain, I’ve tried to forget about all this. The reason I’m telling my story now is because I think I finally understand what the Green Glass does. That 911 call from Greg was finally released. He was saying: “I’m gonna end it all now, you sons of bitches think I’m a criminal and I won’t ever change your minds. Miranda didn’t even like my mirror, that bitch. I’m lighting it all up now.”
Miranda was the unidentified woman who died in the fire, who I believe was probably Greg’s “other woman.” I think Kristin lied about the home invasion. I think her daughter Elizabeth accidentally broke that centerpiece, and her husband tried to stop Kristin from hurting her. Jason always felt threatened, had problems with self-confidence. Always liked to show off. I don’t think the Green Glass punishes greed. I believe the Green Glass hurts those who worry too much what others think about them. It changes them, talks to them, makes them believe that it is the best thing about them. And anyone who doesn’t appreciate the owner of the Green Glass dies for it in the end, too. That would explain why I no longer saw the color when Jason bought the pipe, because I just wanted out and didn’t care what he thought about me for leaving. That’s my theory, and you can take it or leave it. I don’t give a shit what you think about me, and that might be my only defense.
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Julian Assange on Proof of Life - Full Transcription

Part one (~35 minutes in to the stream):
Ok so this is the whole proof of life topic. So... it's pretty, it's very - we saw that evolve, and it's both gratifying and a bit alarming, and I'll explain why. So, personally, and the rest of the team at Wikileaks were very pleased that there was such an expression of concern about how we were doing. We expected all of these attacks and if you looked at my public statements and some of the statements tweeted by Wikileaks in the lead up to my Internet being cut off and that difficult diplomatic situation, we were saying, you know, the attacks were going to come in. We're going to need people to defend us, we're basically going to need an army to get through this.
And then the concern for how I was doing and why I wasn't being seen etc arose, and so the answer to this proof of life question is that we are interested in something quite different. So anything that we did that claimed to be some kind of proof of life would be to set the precedent on what a reduction, what mechanism could be used to reduce concern.
So the calls for example that I issue a PGP signed message - ok, well it's fine if you can understand that it's me that is issuing the PGP signed message. But a PGP signed message doesn't tell you who has issued it at all. It's just a claimed message. So let's look at what kind of precedent we would be setting. We'd be setting a precedent that when there's a concern about whether one of our staff has been kidnapped, or me, that concern can be alleviated simply with a issuing of a message of text, which is coupled to a particular cryptographic key. Now, if Wikileaks is under serious threat, then it's quite possible that it might lose control over it's keys. And the reality is it's quite hard to protect keys from that kind of interference.
The way Wikileaks manages its keys is to - it's submission keys for example - they are not used to sign messages. But even if they did sign a message in this case, would would it be saying? It would be setting a precedent that could be very dangerous in the future. You don't have to produce the person and show that they're not under duress - you can either hack a Wikileaks key, or take control of infrastructure, or take control of a person and then have them, or rather claim that they had produced some signed message. So, we're much more interested in a situation, in creating a precedent for proof of life, in creating a precedent for proof of freedom from duress, or making it hard for our people to be under duress.
And the best way to do that is live video. Because even if you were under duress - and there are various forms of duress that could be applied - if it's live, you've got a few seconds to put things out, you can slip in code words with what you're saying - I'm not buy the way, I'm not - you can slip in code words in what you're saying that people, your people, could then see.
So.... yes, I'm alive, and free from duress, but I am in a very difficult situation. I have been for 6 years. Lets not think that I'm not in a difficult situation. As I've explained, this embassy is surrounded by high-tech police operation, intelligence operation - it's a really difficult situation. I haven't seen the sunlight in four and a half years. It's a tough situation. I am tough, but, you know, you should be concerned about the situation.
And what we had hoped is that those people concerned with my safety would direct their attention to those people who are responsible for this situation - that's the UK Government, the US Government, and the Ecuadorian Government. Now, some of you did. And that's quite possibly why the Internet was put back on - because of that expression of concern.
But, when the concern became very prominent, the result was a black PR campaign trying to infest the concern and take it off somewhere else. And largely succeeded. That was very interesting to watch and play out.
What happened... Fabricated messages claiming to be from our staff were posted on 4chan, reddit, etc. On videos claiming to be from Anonymous. Completely fabricated. Dozens of them. And what was their intent? What were they calling for? They were calling for people to not trust Wikileaks. To not give it leaks, and to not give it funds. I mean, it's obvious who benefits from the production of such a black PR campaign. And it should be obvious in hindsight to all those people who are trying to support me that those type of messages were deliberately intended to undermine Wikileaks, and in fact to undermine my support.
So if this sort of thing happens in the future, think to yourselves: is what is claimed undermining the ability for Wikileaks to operate, the ability for it to get new information, and the ability of it to financially support itself? And if the answer is yes, then you should be extremely skeptical about what the claim is.
But, we are... having seen how concern for us can be manipulated and misled, but also the degree of concern, we now have a game plan if this kind of thing happens again. And we're pleasantly confident about the kind of worldwide support we can get if we get a similar type of attack again in the future. And once again, you can see that I'm speaking, and maybe apparently sane, but don't reduce your concern. I am in a difficult situation, that's the reality. But the difficulty of the situation is well expressed on justiceforassange.com, the UN findings, etc. Wikileaks itself is also, it's staff, is also in a difficult situation; constantly spied upon, harassed, etc. So yeah...
Support us now. Don't wait until we are in a difficult situation that might be difficult to get out of. Make sure we're strong now, going into difficult situations as a result of what we publish.
 
Part 2 (end of the stream):
There's some people saying I should... because of the advances in technology in relation to video editing and audio etc, that I should try and do something that... establishes what I'm saying I'm saying now as opposed to.. these questions were planted and said from some time ago. We'll, it's a, I have to say it is a little bit silly. Not in relation to us being under pressure. We have been under a lot of pressure, but we're very good at resisting pressure. But in relation to whether I'm alive or kidnapped, actually it is a bit silly.
So if you look at people at like John Pilger for example, long term friend of mine, runs my defence fund. Is a famously brave investigative reporter. My lawyers, close friends, people like Laurie Love, the Ecuadorian Government - if you think about the number of people who would have to conspire and the amount of work that would have to be done to produce these false images, there's too many. That's a social proof, and to understand that, one needs to look at the costs and understand the costs involved in trying to pull together all those people and trying to keep a lid on them, and engage in all these kinds of fabrication technology which does not yet exist in a capacity... as far as anyone can tell in a capacity to do what it's done. To do all that, that's the cost, and then to what benefit? That's an interesting question.
So in thinking about real-time proof of life. Well, intellectually the most interesting one is to take the most recent block in the blockchain, the Bitcoin blockchain, give the number and at least 8 digits or something of the hash. And then maybe to throw out this hash by sign language. That's kind of intellectually entertaining. But, what is the problem with it? (Well, let's see if I can get a recent hash...). While it's intellectually entertaining, the problem with it is this: it's very complicated, the underlying technology. And so it has the same flaw that sophisticated voting machines have - cryptographic voting machines. Which is the average person can't understand whether the security claims are in fact borne out. Now, experts might be able to - but the average person can't. So now you're back to a social proof. Does the average person trust the expert? And so how do they know that those experts are really experts and haven't been compromised?
So in fact while it's intellectually entertaining, it's not at all a good type of proof of currency to argue upon anyway. So this is block 445706, and the hash is 178374f687728789caa92ecb49.
Ok, I think I made a mistake in the block number. It's just going to drive everyone crazy. So the block number 447506 - see this is how you can tell it's real time is the mistakes. Hash: 178374f687728789caa92ecb49. Ok - intellectually entertaining. You don't have to read out the whole hash number, maybe 8 digits or something combined with the block number would be enough to show currency within a 10-minute, hour period, something like that.
But actually, the better way to show currency is news that can be widely checked, is widely spread, and is unpredictable before it happens. The best would be a few different natural disasters, maybe a lot of weather measurements. And
 
Blockchain link: https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000178374f687728789caa92ecb49b4d850dfc173a7c0351e6
NBA Scores: http://www.flashscore.com/basketball/usa/nba/
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[Table] IAmA: Hi, I'm Kristen Christian & I started Bank Transfer Day. AMA!

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Date: 2013-07-26
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What were some of the greatest challenges you faced when setting up Bank Transfer Day? Did any of the banks retaliate against you personally? The time commitment that was required that first month was a huge challenge. I ended up putting my life completely on hold to give the campaign the effort it deserved. There have been a handful of banking executives who have tried to discredit me, but they haven't gotten very far. There was one side effect I didn't expect— the FBI has apparently added my name to the Selectee List. I can still travel, but I'm scanned, patted, swabbed, searched & interrogated every time I fly.
That is sickening to hear. Meh. I try to keep a sense of humor about it. All you can do.
Well you annoyed the big players in the world, its a shame they have to use such tactics rather than making there companies better. Sadly, I think a sense of entitlement may be preventing these corporations from taking a hard look at how they could be more appealing to the average person.
Think of it as a pre-flight massage. Haha. Next time they pat me down I'm going to mention that I have a kink in my neck that I'd love for them to work on.
They are not entitled to anything, people can vote with their money! But you are right though. The sooner bankers realize that no one is entitled to anything he or she doesn't earn, the sooner they may be able to salvage their organizations' public image. Companies must be mindful of how their actions impact communities if they hope to receive patronage from this new civic-minded generation of consumers.
People are getting more savvy with there money. And people wont stand for any crap these days! I am from the UK and have just found one in my city that i am interested in. Thanks for doing this IAma! I didnt even knew they existed. Glad to hear from an international supporter! If you're in the UK, you may be interested in Cooperative Trust. I've been following their work since Bank Transfer Day, and it's really impressive! James Marshall, the leader of this fantastic group is based in London.
Thank you for answering this (again) I wanted it in the main Thread so everyone can see the answer. I am reviewing my options now. I am very excited to move to a Credit union and take my money away from these greedy banks. You're very welcome! Let me know if you need anything else.
Do you own or have the rights to "Bank Transfer Day?" Who owns or has rights to "Move Your Money?" CUNA owns "Everyday is Bank Transfer Day," but those other pieces? Relatedly, who maintains the Bank Transfer Day social media outlets (e.g. twitter, facebook)? Although I originated the name "Bank Transfer Day" and "Every day is Bank Transfer Day," a credit union league filed for copyright of the latter phrase without my knowledge or permission. I asked that it be turned over to CUNA so that it might be used for a national level campaign, but that never happened. I've never filed for copyright because I wanted this movement to belong to every person who supported it. Attorneys have advised that should anyone else attempt to copyright, there's adequate proof of origination. There are a couple of volunteers help curate content. They've asked to remain nameless due to the threats I've received for my involvement. I remain personally active in the social media channels as well.
Glad to hear your decision to not go the IP route. Do you have plans to formalize any sort of organizational structure? Not in the financial sector. I see access to data as a service Americans desperately need but co-operatives currently can't provide so I'm putting together a steering committee to start a national-level telecommunications co-operative. Anyone who's interested in joining the steering committee can send me a private message via Facebook.
I'm involved in an attempt to mutualize our fiber-based municipal telecom in my hometown. Are you talking about that sort of telecom, or is the aim more at the wireless market? Sort of similar. There are a handful of region-based telecommunications co-ops, but I'd like to see one on the national level to compete with the "big guys." I really like the Phone Co-op's model, and they've been kind enough to offer guidance.
What do you think about the Big Bank's lobbying Congress to remove the non-profit tax exemption from credit unions? If passed, this will crush the credit union's ability to compete against the banks. Check out Link to www.donttaxmycreditunion.org. I've been very supportive of the "#DontTaxMyCU" campaign. I think bankers must have a big brass pair to try for something like this. At the end of the day, our votes put candidates in office; no amount of campaign contributions can do that. They might have money, but 1/3 of all Americans are members of a co-operative... and that number's growing every single day.
What's it like having your first name and last name being remarkably similar? It's actually pretty awesome! People don't seem to easily forget it, telemarketers struggle to pronounce it, and people randomly sing Night Ranger at me.
Is that your married name? Or did your parents choose that combination for you? Please read back through the comments to any of the 100 times I answered this before. Thanks! :)
Why was this removed? has it been moved? I'm not sure why reddit has removed the text for other users. It's still viewable on my screen. Trying to contact moderators now.
Well when you get it figured out please let me know. Looks like they've sorted it. Phew!
Real quick, I currently have Chase, I hate them and get charged on an average of $40 in fees just to bank . How do I find a credit union to move my money to ? I am Queens , NYC I've found that the best resource for finding a credit union in America is A Smarter Choice. If you'd like, you can also comment on the Facebook wall & I'd be glad to ask for personal recommendations from other supporters.
You are super awesome , Thank you. I am looking into the A Smarter Choice now. if needed I have your Facebook added already and will post there (Facebook is how I found out about the AMA ) Glad to hear it! Please don't hesitate to ask if you need any help finding the perfect credit union for you.
Have a "big bank" contacted you and try to change your mind on your cause? I think most bankers were smart enough to know I wasn't going to change my mind or back down. The CEO of a "big bank" did call to apologize for the online behavior of one of his executives. This was after I'd emailed screenshots of the posts and proof of the person's employment to the CEO & members of major media.
Do you have a financial background? If you had a $100,000 in cash and your house was paid for, how would you invest that money? I don't have a background in finance. It seems to me that the three most important services for the next several decades will be food, finance & data access. We're blessed to have great credit unions & food co-operatives, but lack a national-level mobile phone co-operative. I would use the $100,000 to fund such an endeavor.
I don't think you have much of a concept of how little a dent 100k would make on a project like that... I don't think you realize how far I'm capable of stretching a dollar. The entire Bank Transfer Day campaign was run on $10. :)
YAY for credit unions! I used to be the marketing manager for a big single-seg credit union. Loved our members, and loved the credit union philosophy even more. Question for you... how do you feel about the idea that credit unions are starting to act more like 'banks' and the ABA's lobby to start taxing credit unions? In which ways do you feel credit unions are beginning to act more like banks? The efforts to eliminate the tax exemption status are ridiculous, at best. I see it as a last minute (and incredibly desperate) attempt to strong arm consumers into banking with them. If Senate allows this, there will be a lot of lawmakers out of work next election.
How did the experience of orchestrating BTD change you personally? I hardly recognize the person I was two years ago! I've found myself becoming more & more aware of how the simple choices I make can have a significant impact. Being in the public eye has made me appreciate every ounce of privacy I still have. Overall, I feel as if I've found my calling... to promote co-operation both as a business model & a way of life.
Hi Kristen. As you know my company did a lot of quantitative & qualitative research on the impact of Bank Transfer Day. One conclusion reached by both research methods was that many people (even the unhappier ones) ultimately stay with a large bank because the mobile or other technology is simply more advanced there. In your work with credit unions or community banks, what do you advise them about meeting the needs of people-and especially younger people-who want the convenience of advanced digital 'banking' methods? Technology is going to play a huge role in acquiring & keeping members. I recommend that credit unions take advantage of the services many of their great vendor companies offer to provide resources like shared branching, mobile banking, remote check deposit to members. With a completely branchless model, I think PSECU is a great example of the banking model of the future.
The lack of technology, remote deposit and poor shared branching (especially internationally) is what keeps me away from CUs. That's a common misconception. Many credit unions have embraced mobile banking & remote deposit as part of the frills offered. I travel internationally fairly frequently & have yet to have an issue anywhere I've gone.
It's not a "misconception", its my personal experience. Show me a CU that offers the equivalent to BofAs mobile banking app (check deposit, bill pay, xfers, etc) and doesn't require me to be a former military member or something. Off the top of my head, PSECU offers everything you mentioned.
Yep, PSECU does all of that as well as provides your credit score for free each month. Just when I think I can't love PSECU any more...
Which the average person isn't eligible for. I have no relations to higher Ed in PA. This is one of the problems of CUs in my opinion - the requirement to be part of some subset. Banking lobbyists have successfully prevented credit unions from offering small business loans or expanding membership fields beyond the last inclusion of the relative/live/work/worship clause.
Either way - regardless of how it happens. This is one of the reasons CUs don't work for many people. Instead of complaining about the symptom, why not help fix the problem?
Nothing is ever 100% positive. In your opinion, what advantages do the big banks have over the average CU? The only advantage banks seem to have currently is their ability to sway lawmakers through campaign contributions. As for my personal experiences— Banking with BofA was a nightmare, at best. It's been nothing but smooth sailing at my credit union. I have access to more conveniently located ATMs than I had with BofA, lower interest rates on my lines of credit and the profits from my banking business is used to invest in my community. All around win.
So CUs are always better for all people? Come on. I know you are an advocate, but even you can't be so naive as to think that. I believe nearly every American would benefit both for themselves & their communities by joining a credit union.
OK - nearly isn't every. What kind of American wouldn't? I've yet to come across an American who wouldn't benefit from co-operative membership, but if I do meet one I'll let you know.
What is this? A credit union for ants?... Hey, even insects deserve equal access to affordable financial services! Haha.
Do you think that the "Big" banks are starting to get the message, that the power lies with the people, or are they still on a path that is not good for most Americans long term? TRANSLATION: Do they really not give a crap about the average Joe and Jane 6-pack working hard for a living and still scraping by? Link to www.facebook.com. I think "big banks" have heard the message, but I don't think they're ready to admit that their business practices led to the largest consumer shift in American history. Instead of improving the business model, bankers are pressuring Senate to eliminate the tax exemption status of credit unions.
You are more powerful than sarah kerrigan? Quite possibly. If only there was a way to know for sure...
Funny you mention that, the CU's have been running a student loan consolidation through the cuGrad program. You know SoFi is Morgan Stanley right? I met Ian Brady from SoFi at the G8 Summit Innovation Conference. He assured me that the lending was coordinated through donations by alumni, but I will definitely dig further into this.
Very innovative group there, I will send you some info. Also, check your FB for some info I just sent on our Google Hangout series, very exciting interviews planned. Awesome! Will do.
Do I still celebrate Bank Transfer Day if I dont pay any fees to bank? What day is Bank Transfer Day anyway? It wasn't so much the fees themselves that set me into motion, but the principle behind them. To me, the policy was symptomatic of an overall problem within for-profit banking structures. Bank Transfer Day began as a Facebook event & quickly became the largest consumer migration in American history. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia or Facebook.
You don't honestly believe you've changed anything, right? I don't believe that I singlehandedly changed anything. I believe that working together millions of Americans changed a few things. First, their transfers allowed credit unions to continue offering responsible loans with low interest rates to small business owners. Second, these loans combined with how many employees were hired by credit unions, Americans saw the unemployment rate drop. Finally, we illustrated that if a girl with a laptop and $10 can reach millions of Americans then campaign funding is no longer as vital to a candidate as it might have been in previous elections.
I live in the Las Colinas neighborhood of Irving, TX near Dallas. Do you know of any credit unions in my area that would be the best to check out? I am middle class and will use direct deposit several times monthly. I do not own a home or any large assets and usually use online banking. I'm with Chase currently and want to get away from them. My credit is not the best either. I am not really sure where to start or where to find out which credit unions in my area are the best. Any suggestions? I found several credit unions near you on A Smarter Choice, but I'm not personally familiar with any of them. If you'd like, I'd be glad to ask Bank Transfer Day's supporters for a personal recommendation; they're great about that. Just send me a private message via Facebook.
When you first created the Facebook event, the location of the event was listed as "Occupy Wall Street." How important do you think the Occupy movement (which was peaking in OctobeNovember 2011) was to the success of Bank Transfer Day? It's a common misconception that the Facebook event page had listed the location as "Occupy Wall Street." The best answer I can think of is that there were several factions of OWS that created secondary event pages that people may have seen. While I appreciated the support that was received from various groups across the political spectrum, I wish that leaders of groups like OWS hadn't chosen to cause disruption & break laws in the name of Bank Transfer Day.
Now who will step up and create a bank or credit union that has LEED platinum buildings powered by renewable energy that also invests in renewable energy? There will be bike parking and the thermostat will be set to save power (my CU has it at a frigid 73 F and when I asked what they invest in they told me T bills.) ??? are you the one? Speak to your credit union about their energy usage. Start with the branch manager. If he/she doesn't listen, go up the chain of command until someone does. On the off chance no one listens, take it to the next board meeting. You're part owner of your credit union. Speak up.
How mad are you that you parents named you Kristen Christian? Not at all. Besides being memorable, it's a great way to screen telemarketers... they can never pronounce it.
Oh, and it's more than a little satisfying to overhear a FOX reporter practice your name over & over. MUAHAHAHAHA.
Haha, it is very unique! I like it :-) Me too. :)
I have a friend who is thinking about switching from a Credit Union over to Chase because "they're more convenient" with regard to locations and teller hours. What can I do to sway her back to responsible banking? It sounds to me like maybe she didn't choose a credit union that suits her needs. There's a credit union out there for every single person. I bet she'd be happy as a lark if she joins one with shared branching, online/mobile banking & remote check deposit. If she'd like help finding such a credit union, I'm always glad to point consumers in the right direction. Either of you is welcome to send me a private message on Facebook for personalized help.
How do you feel about regional banks -- specifically (if you know of it) Umpqua bank in the Pacific NW? While some smaller banks do invest in their communities in amazing ways, I'm still wary of for-profit banks for a couple of reasons. First, I want to have a say in how my financial institution is run. Unless I'm a shareholder at a bank, I have no say. Secondly, a corporate bank can buy out a community bank without customers even being informed. I believe wholeheartedly that co-operatives are the best option for consumers.
Why was the original bank transfer day on a saturday? November 5th 2011 was just a deadline goal. I chose the date as a goal because it was about a month away when I created the event & Eddie Colla had just sent his icon image of an American flag superimposed over a Guy Fawkes mask. The stars seemed to be aligning, so I went with it.
Some argue that there is no escaping shadow banking. How much impact does moving retail account money into credit unions make on the shadow banking industry? I can't give you a definitive answer, but I will say that I started the campaign with no expectations & a belief that every dollar can make a difference on the local level so I've already far surpassed my own desires for the results of BTD. Every little bit helps.
I used your organization in the advocacy section of my thesis, "Financial Speak: Unmasking the Criminal Discourse of Wall Street." Your work is a big part of the consciousness raising effort needed in finance. Thank you. That's really awesome! How was it received?
Will do. I'm looking forward to continuing our conversation. Same here!
Did you change your name for the publicity value, or are your parents totally unaware? If I was going to pick a "stage name," do you honestly think I'd choose this?
What are your thoughts on Public Banks? There is a few state level legislatures in my state that are keeping the idea a alive in the WA State congress. I think they sound great for state, county, and municipal banking needs. I think they could be of benefit to particular communities and definitely better than a "big bank," but I still believe wholeheartedly that co-operatives are the overall best option.
Did you marry into the name Christian, or did your parents not think through the mouthful that is 'Kristen Christian'? It's my given name. Funny thing is, I never realized how strange my name was until I moved to LA a few years ago & everyone asked if it was fake.
Why use a bank? They are all scum in the end. Use cash or bitcoin as much as possible. A credit union isn't a bank, but rather a not-for-profit member-owned financial co-operative... so each is only as "scummy" as its members.
They still have employees to pay, CEO's still take huge salaries. They are just slightly different than a normal bank. I'm confused. Are you advocating that people not be compensated for their time & labor? The difference between the salaries of CEOs at banks & credit unions is staggering! Check out this CUTimes article.
Wow. You sound like you are trying to do a commercial. That's a great idea! We should do a commercial to reach even more people.
Facepalm. At least you are positive. Have a good day. You too!
Do you have any examples you can point me toward? Off the top of my head, PSECU.
Why did your parents pick a first name so similar to your last? When I was adopted at a young age, my birth name had been "Cristin." My folks decided that the best option would be to change the spelling of my first name to minimize confusion & allow me to keep a part of where I'd come from. Nearly 30 years later, I think they made the right choice. I've come to really love my strange little name.
I am very pleased with your response as most people would ignore such a question but I don't know anything about banking and I was curious. Enjoy your weekend! If someone takes the time to ask a question, surely I can take time to respond. Have a great weekend too!
You are a wonderful person Kristen! When is the next bank transfer day? Thank you! I like to think that everyone is wonderful in their own way. I feel so very blessed to have this experience, but due to the violence perpetuated by groups that supported the first deadline goal, I won't be coordinating another event like the first Bank Transfer Day. I do plan to continue commemorating the original date both publicly & personally. Last year I spent November 5th speaking for Credit Union Legislative Action Committee before returning to the privacy of my hotel room to read letters & posts from supporters. It really is so touching how so many of you take the time to reach out & encourage me along the way. Something like this is too much for one person to take on alone. I really couldn't have done it without each & every single person who lent their time & talent.
I have huge commitments with a bank which include a mortgage for over a hundred thousand dollars. Can a credit union take on that kind of debt or is it just where you deposit money to get around banking service charges? Credit unions offer all of the same services that traditional banks offer. The main differences the average consumer would notice is reduced interest on loans, higher interest on checking/savings, profits from your banking business are put to work in your community and as a member-owner you have a vote in how the institution does business. On the back end that a consumer may not notice, CEOs are typically paid far less and front line staff are paid more than for-profit counterparts. If you have huge account balances or business loans, it could be tricky, but I can put you in touch with your state's league & ask them to help you find a credit union to suit your needs. Just let me know.
Just pick a credit union with branches all over the country. Both Veridian and Collins Community have branches all over Iowa, I assume they're nationwide as well. John Deere is pretty much only in Waterloo / Cedar Falls, I assume that's who you went with? My credit union has a limited number of branches. I like that their focus is specifically on the community that made me the woman I am today. Yet... I can bank anywhere in the country & even have no issues traveling outside of the US because my credit union participates in shared branching.
Cool story broah. Shared branching is pretty cool, huh?
Why do you have two first names? Why don't you?
I'm not special =[ Maybe you just haven't found that special place where your talents & passions meet. Don't stop looking!
[NEFCU 2.5% interest on checking account. ](Link to www.mynefcu.org Credit Unions are the best. They really, really are. How long have you been a member?
Switching to a local credit union is among one of the best decisions I've made in my adult life. I'm so glad to hear that! How has membership changed your life?
I don't believe they do. As a member-owner, you can ask them to! It's made banking so much easier for me.
"... people can vote with their money!" How dare you! You are now subscribed to lifelong mandatory TSA searches. In fairness, it was a bit more complex. The hacker group Anonymous claimed credit for Bank Transfer Day... effectively saying I was a member of Anonymous, which I'm not. I understood being initially investigated & even being put on the list. It bothers me that they haven't figured out yet that I'm not a risk.
Big bank employee checking in. Keep doing what you do. I really do work for the devil. Thanks for stopping by & having a sense of humor. If you ever feel like leaving the dark side... CU Insight posts about credit union jobs.
Just wanted to stop by and say hi Kristen. Bank Transfer Day is an awesome concept, There is something in it for all, regardless of political affiliation. And that the person behind it all, is one special human being who cares! Other than that.. you inspired me to join Reddit today! Hi! Thank you! You're too kind. I think a lot of people care, but just aren't sure what they can actually do to impact positive chance. I'm glad you joined reddit too! It's a great community full of thoughtful people sharing fantastic ideas.
I haven't banked with an evil big bank since I was in high school . . . and I'm not young anymore. ;-) That's great! Have any of your family or friends made the switch because of your recommendation?
No question here, just support and solidarity. I participated in the first Bank Transfer day as a part of my local Occupy encampment, and switching to a local credit union has been a decision I've only been happier for doing! Thank you for your organizing efforts! Thank you! It's been amazing to see how this simple & direct action was appreciated by so many people. There are a lot of things Americans disagree on, but I think the vast majority of us believe that our communities need & deserve our support.
I feel the same way. I feel like a total geek sometimes because if anyone ever asks anything about banks, I effuse wildly about my c.u.. That evangelism is so common amongst co-operative members, but relatively unheard of in any other sector! Kind of makes you feel all warm & fuzzy.
You do realize that the big banks are probably thrilled that they are losing a lot of accounts with small balances. If the "big banks" were thrilled, I doubt they wouldn't have rescinded the new policy two days before the original deadline goal, nor would they now be lashing out by pressuring lawmakers to eliminate the tax exemption stays of credit unions.
Is your middle name Cristian. No. No, it's not.
Quick! Say your name 5 times fast! Okay, but only if you join a credit union. Bribery.
I'm 21 and have no clue what a credit union is! =D. Check out this awesome video explaining the differences between banks & credit unions: CLICK HERE
So glad you could do this, Kristen. There's a lot of misinformation out there, but we're gaining ground! A big 'Thank You' from your friends at Alliance Credit Union in St. Louis... Thank you! I hope everyone at Alliance is having a fantastic day!
2 years ago I saw your Bank transfer day Facebook page and it encouraged me to abandon my crumby BofA account and join a credit union. Huge thanks! No, thank you! Without the support of so many folks, the Facebook event could never have turned into a full-blown movement. I'm so glad to hear you're still happy with your choice!
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[Table] I Am a Strip Club Manager what would you like to know?

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I will preface that I make no apologies for the lack of political correctness of this question I ask... Is there a tacit quota on how many black girls you hire? Fact is I know you need a couple of black girls in the mix for the sake of variety but you hire too much and your club will be considered "the black strip club"? Or, do you hire as many as you want and just space out their shifts so too many are not on the floor at the same time? There is an unwritten rule that is followed. Once a club goes black you can never get it back. We play a lot of rock and techno type music and keep just a few black girls to keep this from happening. What's funny is that the black girls we have don't like it when we hire other black girls and the black guys that come in to our club are typically middle to upper class and would never step foot in a "black club"
the reason they (the black strippers) don't like when you hire other black strippers is because they are afraid that there "spot" is in danger...this is exactly like black pro wrestlers in the 70's who didn't like new black wrestlers in the territory Not so much their spot as their money. In a white club the black girl gets the black girl money but if there are more then one on the floor the few guys who like black girls then split that money between them and its a competition. Its hilarious when you hear them say that they dont like ghetto ass black girls when they themselves are exactly that.
As a former dj. yeah, you got it exactly. the mid range clubs in D/FW area generally did 8-1 w-b girls. there are, or used to be all black clubs, but they generally looked like stereotypes from a bad movie. Bullet holes in the front door, blood stains on the carpet, metal detectors at the entrance. Yea, this looks like a great place to have a few drinks and let my guard down!
How often do you get laid on the job? Never, I bat them away almost daily. Two days ago a very attractive dancer told me that she masturbates while thinking of me and although not easy turned her down. There are girls who when in trouble will grab my cock, bat their eyes, push their tongue into their cheek and Say "but I don't have to be in trouble do I?“ this is a career ender. Managers who stand the test of time do not screw their dancers... Bartenders rarely, but never a dancer. A whole slew of trouble comes from screwing a dancer, they tell everyone, you loose respect, and they expect special treatment. They no longer work for you, you work for them. Simply put, to answer your question, Never. My girl at home is way better looking then most of the girls and doesnt have any of the issues.
I'm reading all your answers with Kenny Powers' voice in my head. Favorite comment so far. You deserve gold, just not from me.
How does your girlfriend feel about you working in this kind of environment and anti social hours? She is ok with the enviroment because she knows I'm a good person but the hours drive her banans and puts a strain on our relationship. This is why so many managers date bartenders. Because they share the same hours and get to see eacother enough.
Does this get you any respect? I can imagine there is a whole slew of different types of women at a place like that, but has anyone (not the girls that try it) ever told you that they respected you for not giving in to this? Or is it just anger for not letting them get away with stuff? I have had three different reactions. There are the girls who were once sweet as could be, would help me with small tasks etc but then completely wrote me off and acted like complete bitches when I shut them down. I have had the girls who are ashamed and embarrassed and then there are the girls who feel appreciated and valued as a person rather then a sex object. From then on They treat you like their father or big brother and are the best dancers you will ever have.
So how many bartenders have you screwed? No comment, If your going to be with a bartender you better be ready to have a relationship and even then shit may get weird working together. It's best to just date outside of your club. It doesnt hurt to go to other clubs where the girls know who you are because then the limitations are lifted but you still have a name for yourself which makes it easy.
Ahh...your girl is reading this, isn't she? She is completely unaware and thinks Reddit is nothing more then the funnies I've shown her on the front page. Lol.
> She is completely unaware and thinks Reddit is nothing more then the funnies I've shown her on the front page. Lol.
What about the owner? He was Black Mailed once so I think he learned his lesson. If your going to screw a bunch of strippers be prepared to be lonley but have meaningless sex all the time. We get old and want more even as men.
How much money does the club make? How much do the dancers make? How much do you make? Is it difficult to open up a strip club? My club generates an income in the Millions every year. Personally I take home between 68 and 73k a year depending on how well the club does. I have a few smart and focused dancers who make over 100k annually but most of my dancers don't make over 40.
How did you get into this job? When your were young did you ever think you would ever work as a strip club manager or something similar? And do you have any funny/creppy story to tell? I never imagined that I would be managing a strip club I always pictured myself doing something in the medical field however like most people I just kind of fell into the business. After the Army, While in college, I worked for a typical night club doing security part time. The club was closing and the owner was a decent guy and tried to help everyone get a new job. Around this time the owner of several strip clubs in my area called him and asked if he knew anyone that was primed for management. He said that he would send anyone he knew his way and this is where I came in. I was told to lie my way into the job and was more then welcome to use his name as a reference. Mentioning his name got me the interview. The day of the interview I was sat at a large round table with 4 older and very well dressed candidates. After waiting for what seemed like an hour the GM of several clubs stepped through the double doors across the room holding a steaming cup of coffee and a cigarette. He confidently walked over to his chair, put his coffee on the table, his cigarette in the ash tray and then leaned over to me seated directly to his left, exhaled a lung full of smoke into my face and shook my hand. Everyone stood up and reached across the table to shake his hand except the man directly across the table who couldn't reach and had to walk around. He interviewed us all in a group setting going through our resumes one by one probing us on our qualifications. It was more then obvious that I was the least experienced person in the room that day and was certain I would not be getting a job. Towards the end of the interview the GM got very serious and said that in order to be considered for the position we would all have to submit a Urine Sample. He looked everyone in the eye seemingly simultaneously and said "does anyone have a problem with that?" everyone responded at the same time with different forms of no. Nobody had an issue with it and after a few awkward seconds of silence he let out a loud bellowing laugh and said that there wouldn't be any drug test today. I was laughing right along with him,reached out grabbed his coffee mug, stood up and loudly said "Are you sure because I'll give you a urine sample right now, no problem! He laughed some more and with a cigarette between his index and middle finger pointed at me and said. "First day on the job and you're already making jokes about pissing in the bosses coffee. I like you, I havd just the club for you. show up to (smallest club they had) on Monday, you'll be training with Chris. I looked at the other guys and smiled looked back at the boss, shook his hand and walked out before anything about that moment could change, and that's how I got my start.
Did you ever have sex with one of the girls who worked there? If so how did it go? And tell us some crazy stories that happened in the stripclub :) When I first started in the industry I made the mistake of sleeping with two new fresh out of the box 18 year old first day strippers. It went on for a few months and was Amazing! The rumors started circling and I got nervous. I lost a lot of respect and almost lost my job. Never Again. I want to take these girls up on their offers all the time so it's not easy, especialy when they throw themselves at me. Luckily my needs are well taken care of at home.
They come in boxes? Yes, Delivered by U.P.S Wait For it...
That had to have been great. Two 18 year old's learning to get their nasty on...those memories will serve you well in your middle age... Or if i ever go to prison.
What's the weirdest/funniest/least relevant song that's been played while a girl's dancing? My friend told me he heard Let the Bodies Hit the Floor the first time he went. Peanut Butter Jelly Time. Lol, She put her hands on her hips and just gleamed over towards my DJ... He started fist pumping and she cracked up and just went with it. It was a slow Monday and someone paid him too do it. The customers were smiling and laughing so I just let it ride.
I will pay you in bitcoin to get a video of something like this Oh, it can be done. Couple questions... What kind of guarantee do I have you'll actually pay? What song do you want to hear? And what kind of women do you like?
Whats the weirdest request asked of a worker? I'm not sure. Nothing comes to mind. A dancer once came to me in a panic telling me her bag of cocaine was stolen and asked if I would help her find it. I was stunned and just looked at her waiting for her brain to click in and realize who she just asked to help her find her drugs. It never did.
I'm assuming she was fired? Suspended to day shift for a week and we had a long talk. A strip club without strippers is a lonely old bar. We tolerate a lot of nonsense.
Do you ever try to push them in the direction of getting some help for their addictions? Keep a local AA/NA meeting list on hand? A strip club with strung-out or OD'ing strippers is a sad old bar. Noone knows because I send them home if they are messed up. My DJ, security, or myself usually catch it before a customer sees. I don't try to help these girls get off drugs. You'll regret giving a damn everytime.
This comment makes me really sad. One of my friends just started working at a club earlier this year. I have plenty of good girls who dont drink, smoke, or do drugs. They make the most money and typically save their money to open their own business or go to school.
How do you pick the girls? They apply, and if they are good looking enough their first night is their audition... No girl is an employee, they are all independent contractors.
Mmmm, the sweet sound of no vicarious liability... Thats right!
Interesting... Do you assign them shifts or supervise them when they are on the job? If so, then to what extent. Nope, Be here before 7 and there is no fee to work, Every hour after 7 the fee goes higher and higher and higher. Most girls are required 3 shifts a week except for the "Club Dimes" they pretty much do whatever the fuck they want.
Level with me now - Is there really no sex in the champagne room? Very rarely, and when it does happen it's always very awkward and uncomfortable looking because they're trying to hide it and have to contort themselves in awkward position. We have cameras in the VIP and champagne room and if it's being done either my vip security or dj know. some security and DJs will look in the other way for a nice tip. Personally I dont go looking for trouble and would have to stumble on it but if I did see it I would stop it immediately. Usually the girls just meet guys after work and are paid to hang out. They are just using the club as a way to get new clients. The majority of my girls do not take part in this and the ones who do I am typically aware of but at the same time don't care.
Does the cameras have microphones too or do you only check on the VIPs visually? The microphones only record if I press a number sequence on the alarm. This way if robbed and made to deactivate the alarm it goes into silent mode and a phone call is patched directly to the company where they can hear what is being said.
How many have died in your club? None, but some kid got shot in the parking lot a few years ago when he and his friend chased a guy all the way to his car. The guy grabbed his gun and opened fire hitting one of the kids in the gut. He grasped his belly and ran back into the club squirting globs of blood everywhere. It's all on camera and naturally we recieved a seizure warrant for the footage. Word of advice... Never commit a crime within 40 yards of a strip club unless you're wearing a mask and not driving your own car.
What is the easiest way to get a nut off after a night of drinking and going to the strip club as a last ditch effort? Drugs? Be charming? Act like I have $? Spend $ on dances? Or. Try to find the girl who turns tricks? Become a regular at the club, be generous, become known and liked by the girls. That's your best shot at some random drunk night last ditch effort fuck.
Is it true that the girls aren't paid, that the only way they make money is with the money guys throw on the stage and private dances? In my area yes, in other areas the girls make the minimum wage a waitress would. Which is irrelevant because if if it were my club I would just turn around and charge them their hourly wage right back so it would be a wash and on top of that fine them when they were late. Dancers pay to work, it's income for the club. Think of the club and security as pimps. We provide protection and a safe place to work they provide us with a percentage of what they make.
How do you know what they make? The clubs In my area the girls normally have some sort or purse they just stuff the 1$'s into. Yes, but their private dances (the real money) is tracked. Also, I have a close working relationship with the highest earners at my club and we have discussed their earnings.
I used to be a dancer at a pretty "swanky" club in Dallas. They charged me separate fees for everything! For the house mom, the DJ, and to dance that night. I was anxious about all of this until my "boss" informed me that no-penetration sex, aka bjs etc, are a-okay...and then I got really anxious,... *1. How many girls go through the dance license process that never come back after their first night? *4. Do you ever warn your girls that stripper clothes/shoes/dancing in general is VERY expensive to start up? Or is it fairly cheap in your area? *6. How do you pep talk curvy, or just generally un-confident girls? In my area there isn't a license required for dancers. Just the club. Anyone can try out. I do not warn girls about dancer gear. For about $200 you can buy two outfits and a pair of shoes in my area. I don't hire big girls, we have one and that's enough and she thinks she's a god damn ballerina. For the girls who are nervous I give them a partner which is always one of my kinder, sweeter, non drug addict dancers who will really help them through . I usually don't have to pep talk my curvy girls, they are always full of confidence. Rarely I have to push them to get more dances and then I just tease them about how their just there to party instead of make money or tell them daddy needs a new pair of shoes silly shit like that.
*3. What are the fees you charge your dancers for the amenities? Fees depend on what time the girls show for their shift the later the more expensive so it's tough to to be specific.
*5. How many girls have gotten in fights with CUSTOMERS and lost their right to work at your venue over the years because of it? I've fired several girls for fighting customer but the girls I have now know to tell me what happened and then walk away because I'll handle it.
Ive always wondered why strip clubs arent more active on social networking sites. I would love it if local clubs were more active on instagram/twitter and the like. Im sure there are plenty of times I would drop everything I was doing and drive right out because I saw "Dupree" was wearing X or because girls x, y, z are all working the same shift. I know alot of the girls dont want to show their face but that can easily be worked around. Is the thought that guys will just spank it to the pictures posted and not bother coming in?? a fear of showing the public what their product really looks like?? Or just reluctance from the girls to be pictured in any way?? I have every one of my dancers who have been there for a month or more as a FB friend and post a lineup everynight of each girl on shift and tag them in it. Every friend of the clubs FB and the girls FB is alerted. I started this when I took over my club. No other club in the area does this. Shhh. Great Idea BTW.
Are there any girls who don't want you to let their whole friends list know that they are adult dancers? I'm sure there are, they just block those people from seeing posts they're tagged in. There's a privacy setting for everything on Facebook.
I know its a job, and we all gotta earn money. But in alot of cases, girls working as dancers often do have some issues with themselves/something that has happended to them in the past. Do you never feel guilty sometimes? Or wish in anyway (if you know of a dancer with a horrible background) that you could help them out? Everyday, I keep reminding myself that it's not my fault, and if not for me they'd just work for someone else. After a few months in the industry you don't look at them the same. You see them lie, cheat, and steal and you loose some of that softness in your heart. Don't get me wrong I do have some good hearted girls that are excellent mothers and decent people these are the girl who make the most money but most dancers are sex robot junkie criminals who will rob their best friend.
Are you friend with some of the dancers or is it like, strictly professional and you wouldn't say "hi" if you saw them in the street or while shopping at the mall ? Edit : wrong word. It can sometimes be awkward seeing them on the street, especially when it's Walmart, they're with a customer and he's buying them hundreds of dollars worth of groceries. Or your at the mall with your girlfriend and daughter and your eyes lock. They act like they never saw you and slink away. But, like always, there are acceptions. There are a few who my girlfriend is very friendly with however we never hang out unless we happen to bump into each other while out. What's really strange is when you bump into a guy who's been in your club and with his wife standing right next to him insists that he knows you from somewhere but doesn't know where and no matter how many times you tell him you don't know him and just have one of those faces he keeps insisting. It's always funny to see the moment when they realize why they know you come across their face in a panic when finally they sheepishly agree with you and walk off.
I get not saying hi when a girl is wit a costumer, off course.. but when you're with your girlfriend / daughter ? What's the big deal ? Why not say a quick hi ? Its not an issue for me. It's usually the girl who makes it weird.
Do you have to pay off either police or local criminal organizations to avoid harassment? I am unsure about the police, But we are very close with the largest local biker gang in the city and are protected from organized crime.
Whoa can you add more to this? They stop in on busy nights to check on us and have put the word out that we are under their protection. Only a nobody who doesn't know anyone would try to rob us simply because he has no clue what he's getting into. If someone came in shooting the place up that person would most definitely disappear. You have to understand that these guys are not bad people. They are our police when the police cannot be.
How are they compensated? That's above my pay grade and thankfully I have no idea. Somethings are better to not know.
How did arrangement come to be? Truthfully I cannot discuss it without giving away too much detail and put myself in a situation where I may no longer be anonymous.
It's the warlocks isn't it? They protected a club I worked for in FL. I will not provide any insight into this subject matter for reason of self preservation. But thanks for posting!
What are your thoughts on the Easton Byfield case? He's the strip club bouncer who kidnapped, beat and robbed a patron in the bathroom while another employee video taped it. He's a punk and I hope he gets mouth fucked in prison. I hope that's clear enough.
Do you utilize your pimp hand or is there a more effective method? Hurt these girls $ and they straighten right up. Put them on day shift for a week or take away a weekend and they are angels for at least a week or two. They may run to another club for the weekend but they're uncomfortable and want to come back home.
Is the owner a gangster like Toni Soprano or the 1% MC gang in the area? How do you get along with the neighbors, LE etc? Our owner is an intelligent mid 40's playboy. You'd never think twice if you saw him on the street. Our closest neighbors is another club and we get along well enough.
What's your hours like? And how often per week etc. Officially... Tuesday - Saturday 7pm-3am but it's not uncommon for me to come in a few hours early or few hours late. I'm the GM and little extra stuff is normal. I probably put in 45-50 hours a week which is nothing compared to my last job and I make substantially more $.
Answer if you'd like... You say substantially more? Are we talking money I can live off of and have walking around cash, or just getting by? I've always wondered what the average income of strippers and club GM's was. Obviously they make rent or no one would do it, but nonetheless. Around 70k a year the person I replaced moved to the next bigger club in our chain and does 110 - 120.
Do you ever rent out the place to private parties? I could imagine those kinds of arrangements making hours longeshorter. No Private parties. We have regular customers and that would not be fair to them. We will set aside a portion of the club with plush leather couches and a private stage though!
How often do people "make it rain"? All the time. Usually these are the guys who want to look a certain way at the club. Typically the guys who spend the most do not tip much on stage and dont need to make a spectical of themselves but rather spend their money quietly in the back.
Do you require your girls be open to going private with both genders? While men bring most of the money, some women can too no? No requirments but these girls could care less if its a man, a women, or a cross dressing pirate handing them money.
What is the policy of girls working on their time of the month? LOL, They all sync up and one week out of the month you have 40 emotion basket cases all bleeding at the same time. We would have like three or four new girls for that week if we didnt let them work. You do know that womens menstration periods sync up when they spend a lot of time around one another right?
Wow, I guess none of them are on hormonal birth control (like the Pill) then. If you are on the Pill, your period always comes during the 4th week of the pack, regardless of who you are spending time around. If they work during their periods, are there ever any, um, accidents? Also, what girls tend to make the most money - are looks the only factor? I am sure some of them are... All I know is that one week a month I have girl after girl asking for Tampons. I have had a customer upset because he was bled on and the girl was mortified. He obviously did not pay. The biggest earners in the club are the girls with the best hustle and personality. My best looking girl is an idiot and makes shit compared to most of the girls. She isn't fun to be around and just sits around waiting for guys to walk up to her.
How long do the girls last in the job? i guess the ones that make a lot tend to stay long period of time but what about average ones or ones below average? also what makes them "stand out" from other girls? the dance? looks? i figure most of the girls are above average in terms of looks... so do they have some sort of aura that attracts customers to become regulars? I have a core group of about 15 girls that wil be with me for years. the others constantly revolve around club to club escaping problem after problem being forgiven over and over again. Looks make a girl stand out but what makes a good dancer great is their personality and sex appeal its not all about looks. I have a knockout who is Nuttier then squirel shit and she doesn't make nearly as much as some of my much less attractive down to earth girls you can talk to. Trying to respond quickly forgive my grammar, spelling, and punctuation.
How much money should a guy bring to have a decent time without dropping cash in the back? If you wanted to you could come in, drink sparingly, tip slowley and have plenty of interaction with the girls on and off stage for around $50.
I worked in the strip club business in Vegas as the marketing director...we just did an all nude club that didn't serve any liquor until we got our license. Couldn't you do the same out there? Nude + Liquor is a no go here. But some places just attach a bar so you walk through a door and drink across the hall and then walk back across to see the girls.
Hmm funny. I used to live in Tampa and all the strip clubs there are Full Nude No Liquor. Mons Venus and Odyssey 2001 have been voted very high even in world wide rankings. As long as there is a seperation from the club to the bar they can have a "seperate bar" still attached to club where patrons can walk between the two "seperate businesses."
The one strip club in my town doesn't serve alcohol. I never really understood why. Does it have to do with limiting potential trouble makers/gropers? All nude clubs do not serve alchohol and I think the lawmakers thought naked women and alchohol meant trouble. I'm not sure what the explanation is behind this.
How pathetic are your regular clientele, really? Day shift clients... VERY Nightshift Clients are middle to upperclass and dont seem pathetic. Some of the younger guys seem lonely and just want someone to talk to. the older guys always seem happy and secure in life just big ole perverts wanting to play with girls half their age. My Club is a big party spot for younger people both men and women who just want to have a good time. only about half of my customers come for the strippers.
Do a lot of guys wear jogging pants? Only the smart ones! That and basketball shorts lol but mostly no.
What kind of start up capital do you need to open a strip club? Can it be done with a loan, or do banks avoid investing in a strip club? You need a lot of capitol to open a strip club. As far as bank investments I don't know. The first step is securing a building, liquor license and adult entertainment license zoned for your building. After obtaining these three things you can find investors bank or not.
As a member of the strip club business in vegas as a marketing director...i sometimes felt embarrassed of my job and often at my wifes family functions always veered away from discussing my job, even if I'm praised by friends as the luckiest man in the world... How does your family feel about this business, and do you feel the same when discussing the job? Yes, I hate it. No one says a word and when the men and women split all the guys get all hush hush and start asking me questions. Its very obvious when one of the women look over and I am the center of attention whats going on. My GF Hates it and so do I. I have considered taking a hefty pay cut. 30K+ just to not be in this field any longer.
Why not just lie about your job, and say it's whatever you did before you became a manager? I do, My GF on the other hand has to tell everyone.
Have you ever run across an American born stripper that was not bat shit crazy? Is there a different mindset or level of craziness between foreign and domestic strippers? I have never had an out of country stripper, just out of state and girls from up north are slick little gangsters. Every last one of them have a real "I'll cut your ass" attitude.
Any crazy stories of having to literally throw someone out for being an over-the-top asshole? Ever have to call the police? All the time and all the time. imagine it and it has happened.
One night, I had to deal with a problem. A girl and I headed for "VIP", mostly lap-dancing. Charge by the songs.. i counted up to 3 songs. But i ended up to leave early. But she lied to me. she said i went thou 5 songs. Had to call the manager, he went with her side and had to pay for the fake songs THEN he got the bouncer to kick me out. How would you deal with that? We have a VIP man who counts songs and dances. His word is gold with me. If that were to arrise The customer would have to appear sober and convincing enough for me to check cameras. 9 times out of ten I'm going with my VIP man.
How often do you hear about gross feminine issues? Too Often, WAY too often.
What's the wierdest you've heard? Guys paying a girl to allow him to go down on them... I don't get it and it truly disgusts me. Maybe it's because I know where it's been but that's just wierd and strange to me to want to stick your face in a strangers crotch and pay for it.
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